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Poster: agstwst33 Date: June 19, 2010 04:18:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Today in GD History......

OH my goodness!!...I`m I hearing what I think I`m hearing?Sirius actually played music from the 90`s today on Today in GD History today...6/19/91,to be exact.They played the exquisite Scarlet>Fire from the 2nd set.I shouldn`t ask this,due to all the haters of latter-day GD music,but why doesn`t Sirius play more music from the 90`s?I`m tired of the same 1977 shows that seem to play everyday and only one or two stray show`s from the later80`s/90`s.Does anyone else care?...really!!

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: June 19, 2010 05:54:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

Rhetorical.......

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Poster: agstwst33 Date: June 19, 2010 07:51:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

No...not rhetorical...I did wish to receive answers back from the question.If I was being rhetorical,I would be asking the question in a persuasive manor, in a way to make you think of the obvious answer,but not needing to reply with an answer....And I think I asked a pretty,straight forward question,that can easily have an answer!...Do you even know what"rhetorical"means?..Anyway,where are the `90`s GD shows,and why doesn`t Sirius ever play them?......(see...it is a question!!)

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Poster: buscameby Date: June 19, 2010 08:27:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

well probably because the 60' 70's and some 80's are better-lol

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: June 19, 2010 08:41:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

Actually I know exactly what "rhetorical" means , but apparently you do not ....so here's the answer that really does not need to be said is....the 90s are not wothy of satellite radio play!

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Poster: agstwst33 Date: June 19, 2010 08:45:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

I`m not suprised at your arrogance...I`ve read other posts that you have postes,and most were written in a fashion that flat out shows you`re ignorance and failure to hear "great"music..(ie.`90`sGD)..Do you not have anything else to do,but sit and repeatedly listen,over and over to 1970`s GD?..It seems not!..by the way,you tell me what you think"rhetorical"means..and I`ll tell you if you`re correct.Because,I know exactly what it refers to....A good example of a rhetorical question would be..."How long must our people endure such injustice?"....A question,you MIGHT know the answer to,but realize the asker is not waiting on a response...But you wouldn`t understand...you`re too busy picking out Jerry`s flaws,unaware and way too stubborn to see and hear his magic...got anymore questions you need answering??

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Poster: deadmax Date: June 19, 2010 09:04:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

*grabs a bucket of popcorn*

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: June 19, 2010 09:21:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

Move up. I want to see this too...

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Poster: vapors Date: June 19, 2010 09:25:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

can't get too 'sirius' about this

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Poster: madmonkmcphee Date: June 19, 2010 02:44:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

Ha Ha, broken internet hearts. Why rely on satellite radio? Bust your own '90's dead. Popcorn sounds great

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: June 19, 2010 10:19:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

I think its just a manner of quantity. You can pretty much throw darts at '67-77 blindfolded and come up with all manner of great shows. The 90s...not so much. I don't have the link handy, but somewhere there's an interview with (or article by) Gans somewhere where he talks about how tough it was searching through later-day Dead shows for stuff to play on his show. There's just not much there.

This post was modified by skuzzlebutt on 2010-06-19 17:19:50

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Poster: agstwst33 Date: June 19, 2010 09:03:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

I simply think....that they have it,just won`t play it,because of the negative responses that everyone else seems to have about `90`s GD music.I sure don`t have a problem finding material...I just never took Jerry`s mishaps,missed lyric`s or mumbling that serious.I laugh it off as a mistake...It seems alot of folks held him to a standard that ,not even they,could hold up!!..Why?is the question.He only tried to make "us" happy....and then you got these kidz who tear him down peice by peice,never hearing what was really there!....not right!

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Poster: billydlions Date: June 19, 2010 09:15:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

"that they have it,just won`t play it,because of the negative responses that everyone else seems to have about `90`s GD music"

You answered your own question. As far as I'm concerned there's just not a lot to listen to after spring 1990. The only show I ever listen to is 6-17-91, which is only because I was there. There's plenty of variety to listen to from 1967-1990 that we dont need to be reminded about how bad it became after Brent died.

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Poster: agstwst33 Date: June 19, 2010 10:12:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

That`s just it!!...I`m not one of those who preaches bad religeon on the`90`s....All the mistakes that others find to be a "sin"and ridicule the band and Jerry for..is mostly building strength from older Kidz,who toured the`70`s and find latter material unworthy,only because most of them were stuck @home with responsibilities during the `80`s/`90`s and therefore they insist on searching for any change or differences in the newer music and,of course any mistake that Jerry may have made!.....I don`t hear too many people speaking so truthfully about the 70`s music to begin with.Back then,Bobby sang out of tune,more often then not and they overpowered one another frequently...But,if Jerry misses a lyric or two and decides to play in a softer tone,it`s a CRIME!!...I can find just as many "bad"shows in the 70`s,that you may say of the `90`s,.....I just think Sirius should step up and play it all,not just what "they"or you want to hear.

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Poster: Purple Gel Date: June 19, 2010 10:12:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

If everyone has a negative response to it, why would they play more???

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: June 19, 2010 10:22:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

"just won`t play it,because of the negative responses that everyone else seems to have about `90`s GD music"

Ever stop and think that maybe the reason they get these negative responses is because the music from that time simply wasn't very good?

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Poster: agstwst33 Date: June 19, 2010 10:48:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

No...I can`t accept that!The music is good,if not great,It`s just that it`s different in sound and technology from what the `70`s music was capable of....With new members,MIDI-tech,age,style,habits and under constant pressure to perform "perfect"shows,from critiques,the sound was bound to have changes.And its that,that people have issues with....Did people not expect the band to go through changes over 30+ years,that`s how selfish they are!.....instead of growing with the band,they find faults about them to make themselves feel better about their sad lives....

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Poster: bluedevil Date: June 19, 2010 11:18:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

".instead of growing with the band,they find faults about them to make themselves feel better about their sad lives...."

How right you are - 6 song first sets, new tunes like Samba in the Rain and Wave to the Wind, 3 songs post space in the standard drums-space spot after 4 songs with one of those three post space songs bound to be a Chuck Berry/Buddy Holly cover, and the all under the big blaze of full on mega watt spotlights from "the man" while the key member's health steadily declined, yep, I should have "grown" with the band and not paid attention to how miserable my life had become.


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Poster: agstwst33 Date: June 19, 2010 11:31:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

I agree..."Samba,""Wave to the Wind,""Way to Go," and even,"If the Shoe Fits."All of these were poorly thought-up songs.....But on the other hand,songs like,"Days Between,""Liberty,""Believe it or Not!,""SOTM," and can`t forget,"So Many Roads,"were all fantastic,beautiful lyrics with matching accompianent....Shows had to be shorten due to noise ordinances,Mr. know-it-all!....You complain about covers that the band did from Chuck Berry/Buddy Holly.....what about The Beatles,Dylan and alot of other people of which I can`t place a name to...all had songs in the Dead`s repitoir,are you going to complain about,"Visions of Johanna,""Rain`" or "Hey Jude?"probably not,most of the time people who send posts with sarcastic BS in them usually don`t think before posting....try again.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: June 19, 2010 11:56:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

Bueller? .... Bueller?....

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: June 19, 2010 01:26:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

they stopped playing Believe it or not in the late 80's didnt they? and that's not an example I'd use to prove the merits of the 90's

I think Hornsby revived Jerry BIG TIME therefore I think there are some very excellent shows in 91, a year I think is unjustly disregarded by many. As for 92-95? Not much there I care to listen to BUT there are some decent shows I've enjoyed listening to.And the last disc of So many roads box set is the only one i ever listen to ( listen to full sets or shows for the older stuff ). I think that album they were working on would have been pretty decent if they had managed to not over produce it and not give Phil and Vince more than one song at most

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Poster: agstwst33 Date: June 19, 2010 01:58:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

I know,"Believe it or Not,"was atleast played through 1990.Jerry sang it in Ontario,I think??...But,I really like it!...When Jerry put all His Heart into a song,it always shines brighter,and He seemed to do so with,"Believe it or Not!"...I agree with you when saying `91 was a good year,pretty much`88-`91,(Jerry`s clean years)There was a differnce.But a little know-how and patience will also bring show`s from `92-`95 into a person`s radar who`s looking for,mabey not all,but most of the great moments of shows from this era.I know its out there,I`ve heard it.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: June 19, 2010 11:45:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History...... Billy K makes a point

I guess the original member wouldn't have any valid thoughts:
http://www.thefader.com/2007/06/06/whos-got-my-extra-bill-kreutzmann/

I was living in Mendicino when my girlfriend called and said he died and I flipped. I went into shock. I knew he was trying to go clean at the Betty Ford Center, and he came back and something happened. When you do stuff like that to your body, all your organs get weak. His body was ready to go, doggonit. He had kicked a few other times. and one time he had kicked and we were playing a show at the Shoreline Ampitheatre near Palo Alto, and he was really wired and it was like razorblades on your backbone or something. He played so great. He leaned over and said, “Billy, I’m so nervous.” And I was like, “You are playing your fucking ass off, shut up.” I was hoping he would stay like that, but unfortunately that drug pulls too strong.

I think if he had gotten himself clean again, which it looked like he was trying to do, he probably would have stopped playing in the Grateful Dead because I don’t think he really liked the Grateful Dead at the end there. That’s my honest feeling. I think he was doing it for money, I didn’t feel he was doing it for the fun anymore, I don’t think any of us were. I think the last five years in that band were kind of wasted. You can’t capture the magic in a box, even if there wasn’t drug problems with any of the band members and everybody was perfect. The art kind of leaves. The muse kind of pulls its energy out. My feeling was that he was always going to play with another band.

Read more: http://www.thefader.com/2007/06/06/whos-got-my-extra-bill-kreutzmann/#ixzz0rKHIpkTJ

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Poster: bluedevil Date: June 19, 2010 11:53:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History...... Dan Healy weighs in

Jerry should have been a movie director. He was a good guitar player, and a fair to middling musician that for some reason became adopted by the audience, but there were things behind the scenes that he was even better at. He was an enabler of creative talent. I think he really believed in me and I can tell you that I really believed in him. The last six years or so, Jerry became such a hopeless junkie. He got eaten up by the scene. He didn’t really want fame. The drugs became a method of escape. I had to stand there and mix and watch him every night on stage. I would be in tears at the end of the gig, watching this once great man slowly decay. I just got to where I couldn’t do it anymore. I dropped out. It still upsets me.

Read more: http://www.thefader.com/2007/06/12/whos-got-my-extra-dan-healy/#ixzz0rKJQhsAK

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: June 19, 2010 01:34:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History...... Dan Healy weighs in

don't disagree with the last sentiment there at all but i often take what Healy says with a grain of salt. I mean the guy was obviously an extremely gifted engineer or whatever you call it but I always get the feeling that he thought he was actually in the band, or could be in the band or do better. I've heard a few things he's said about Weir and I put Garcia as more than a fair musician, I see him as a musician before a guitar player myself.

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: June 19, 2010 03:47:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History...... Dan Healy weighs in

I agree with your caution . Sometimes it is good to have a little cold water thrown, on our view of the Dead ( I think it makes what they achieved more remarkable, considering their "limits"); but "fair to middling" may be a little too harsh . Garcia liked film, but in the pre-digital era , editing was rough ( it was a surprise to him how much so , when making the GD Movie ); and even more of a problem with him being a director, is he didn't want responsibility, to be the boss . Many of the greatest directors were/are pretty firm to the point of being dictators .
On the original subject of this , the 91 show in question, there was some good stuff in this year ( and even after that ) . I don't listen to Sirius , but they should cover the latter stuff too .

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: June 19, 2010 07:36:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

Of course the band went through changes. Anyone who's ever listened to a tape from 1968 and then 1978 understands that. But what YOU need to understand is that just because someone loves the GD doesn't obligate them to love or even like every era. A lot of people, including myself, just don't think the 90s stack up. Get over it.

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Poster: Jim F Date: June 19, 2010 11:10:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

It was partially out of wanting to make "us" happy I suppose, but in retrospect if "we" really cared about Jerry I think "we" would have wished they had stopped touring so much in the 90's, which they should have done, imo, and worried more about their own health and happiness than trying to work so hard maintaining their overhead to make "us" happy. Just my opinion, anyway...

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Poster: cousinkix1953 Date: June 20, 2010 12:51:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

Grateful Dead Productions provided full time jobs for a crew of 40 people on the road and a staff at home in Marin county. They were paid union wages and got health care benifits too. It was expensive! So they were always on a tour. The band felt obligated to them and didn't formally dissolve this corporation until just a few years ago...

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Poster: Longnstrange Date: June 19, 2010 12:16:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

You obviously aren't aware that the Dead were worthless after Brent joined. Heroine had ruined Jerry by this point and Brent has the worst high squeeky voice anyone has ever heard. Trust me, if you think you like anything the Grateful Dead did post '78, then you are tripping. You are so blinded by being at the show and having taken LSD that you think you had a good time and the music was good. In reality, everything post '78 is just an aweful, horrific, decline of Garcia and the Dead and everyone applauding in the eighties is an idiot. They all should have bagged it and become born again when Kieth and Donna saw the light and got out. At least then we never would have had to suffer through all those eighties tours and shows and trips and ugly women and aweful venues and yikes, Branford friggin' Marsaeles(sorry sp)- my god, what a bunch of hacks they were. I have software installed now that only allows a pre '79 show to stream. It blocks the unlistenable post '78 music. I suggest you all use it, too.
You can find me here, or, when not here, Cliff and I are logged onto the Oilers fan blog telling everyone about how much the Gretzky, Kuri, Messier years sucked.

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Poster: Purple Gel Date: June 19, 2010 01:21:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

OH NO HE DI"NT... He just trashed the 80's, this is gettin good!

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: June 19, 2010 02:11:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

I totally agree. Listen to the aforementioned "exquisite" Scarlet>Fire:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd91-06-19.sbd.aj.2786.sbeok.shnf

and compare it with this one:
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1977-05-08.mtx.dan.29511.flac16
You hear that, you hear the bass, right? You hear, it kicks, it turns, it curls up your belly, makes you wanna freaky deaky.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: June 19, 2010 03:31:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

Compare Cornell '77 to a '91 show? No fair, no fair!

But come on. Some shows are hot, others are hotter. Sometimes a LOT hotter. But that doesn't utterly erase the value of the ones that aren't, ya know, Cornell '77. The '91 Scarlet>Fire is worth hearing; Hornsby was there, I presume?

(Uh-oh. Cornell has just transitioned to St. Stephen .... Better not keep this on while trying to make the point ...)

But, um, agstwst33: If the reaction below was an effective style of debate, lawyers would take the stand and just shout, "poopy head! poopy head!" Oh, wait. That's how Congress works ...

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Poster: agstwst33 Date: June 19, 2010 02:18:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

You are fucking DEAF!!!You obviously don`t have a clue of what went on or of the years that we had Jerry,when He was clean,sober and aged to perfection!Jerry`s raspy older voice alone is reason enough to wanna listen to a"SOTM from`89,"rather than say a,although a great song,"Morning Dew,"from `72.What makes post`78 any better then anytime`87-`95?Because back then Bobby sucked vocally,He couldn`t sing in key,even if he was trying.Longer sets and shows don`t make it better,repition of songs,again don`t.And how dare you speak of Branford in such a way!! You`re scum....that has no ear for a great musician,even if he was to play right in front of you!!Go crawl back under your rock,listen to what you want,but don`t trash music,that you nothing about...If you did..well,you just wouldn`t have wasted time strictly to tell us how much you hate it!Your comments make me sick...YOU,you make me sick.Stop hating because of your personal life and put the barrel in your mouth and pull the trigger!!!!

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Poster: Pork Soda Date: June 19, 2010 02:52:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

agstwst33, PLEASE take your meds, turn on your spell check, take a few deep breaths, and listen to this.
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1969-12-26.sbd.warner-evans.28448.sbeok.flac16
Pay special attention to track #8.

If you can stomach '90s Dead, more power to you.

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: June 19, 2010 03:06:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

Dude, don't get your panties in a twist. Take some meds,go to the dictionary, and look up sarcasm. Irony would be good too. Hey, I hope you get your wishes - I can't afford Sirius anyway. To each his own.

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Poster: Jim F Date: June 19, 2010 11:23:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

Yeah but Bobby didn't really "sing" in the later years, it was more of a Shatner-esque spoken type phrasing lol

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Poster: roughyed Date: June 20, 2010 04:44:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

Longnstrange is taking the piss ... and doing it well! We all get fooled now and again - that's good satire. My first post was an angry response to "criticism" of Ornette Coleman. The poster had me hook,line and sinker.
There's only 2 kinds of music: good and bad. This statement has been attributed to Duke Ellington, Louis Armstrong etc, but is probably apocraphyl (does anyone know? some help please). So you decide what's good and bad. Listen to the music play. There's some great stuff from the 90s, and I've heard some concerts from the 60s where every Garcia solo sounds the same as the previous song! And I'm NOT taking the piss.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: June 19, 2010 02:15:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

I haven't listened to much from the '90s (almost none, actually), but do sincerely hope there are some gems there. I'd hate to think the boys were working so hard for naught and never having moments of inspiration beyond their paycheck, or that folks who got into the band in that era were just mildly nuts or majorly drugged.

So, seeing this post, I thought I'd do some roulette today and see what I find, post '92. (The last time I saw the band was '92 -- not on purpose, it just happened that way -- so I figure I have no emotional investment after that to potentially cloud my ears.)

In pulling up random shows and clicking on tunes, I've heard some painful versions, but I'm also finding a fair number of songs with some really hot sections where I'm thinking, "Whoa, this is taking off." Which is a surprise, given the era's rep. Individually, in my random samples, they seem to be playing well (even Jerry, when he appears from the ether).

However, I haven't yet found a tune that I'd say gels well enough from beginning to end to bookmark (or play on the radio if I were making that decision). It's more a matter of hot sections.

One big stumbling block for me is Vince. I just don't like the way MIDI-tech stuff sounds in general, and I don't think it's a matter of not "growing with the band." I have the same problem with Brent, when he gets into his tinky-wink sounds, but Vince doesn't have Brent's ability to ultimately win me over.

So the other boys will be jamming along and starting to go somewhere, and then, suddenly, it's like I'm on hold at a call center. That's a lot more jarring than Jerry's flubbed lyrics, or even than Jerry disappearing.

How Jerry looked on stage doesn’t matter for squat when you’re listening at home or on the radio. But the elevator music interlude does. So does the inconsistency. I don't doubt there were great moments at the shows when things got cooking, but they don't seem to be sustained enough to make, say, a good radio show.

Still, while it's clear you can't toss a dart and come up with great stuff a la the 70s, if there's great hidden stuff from the 90s, point it out! I'm open minded. I bet a lot of others are, too.

BTW I assume the blanket trash of everything after '78 was a joke to get hackles up. I mean, reaaaalllly ..... ugly women and all ...... grrrrrrrr .....

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: June 19, 2010 04:18:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

There are lots of very good shows through 1993. There are also some iffy ones. But there are lots of threads out there with recommendations. Seek it out if you're interested, or don't if you're so convinced that it doesn't exist. But don't waste your time arguing about it.

For what it's worth, I was at the 6/19 show and didn't think the Scarlet> Fire was all that great. 3/21/91, 9/4/91 and the one from Vegas are much better. Lotta Phil on the 6/19 show, but not much else.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: June 19, 2010 04:46:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

Gosh, I'm not arguing, and I'm certainly not convinced of anything at all about the '90s. Just babbling. It's better than doing the ironing :-)

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: June 20, 2010 07:33:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

Oh, sorry, I wasn't picking a fight with you. Just a general comment.

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Poster: agstwst33 Date: June 19, 2010 08:12:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

Thanx to all who somewhat agree with my question on why more `90s should get airtime...And I just wanted to say,I never compaired the 6/19/91Scarlet>Fire to any other song or era.I simply was glad Sirius Sat.finally played music that wasn`t 25+ years old on Today in GD History,that`s all!....I rarely post anything on here,pretty much because of the reaction I recieved from this question.See how many people that couldn`t resist the urge to tell another GD music lover,how much they think what he likes,pretty much shouldn`t have ever been played at all.That `80s/`90s Jerry isn`t as good as `70s Jerry.I think its all good,all30+ years.But when the kinda question I asked persuades old timers to crawl to the computer and make such statements about that era.Coming up with reasons why it shouldn`t be aired on the radio,is real funny to me.Yeh,I may have stirred the pot myself,but I had my reasons.Everyone should make a note themselves,not to post contraversial subjects,like GRATEFUL DEAD MUSIC!!!...It always causes the elderly on here to have hissy and the need to preach about how "bad"Jerry really sounds to them.....some of you are quite ridiculous!.......hope my spelling checks out,if not,sorry for that too...lol

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Poster: bigwind Date: June 20, 2010 06:50:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

Man we went through all this once before!!!!!!!!!!!
With, A TOUCH OF GRAY, The Dead became mainstream.
Every Drunko Jock,and wanna be,started coming to the shows.
They gave two shits for the music, just wanted to fuck some Hippie chick, or start trouble in their alcoholic stupor. The audience vibe was no longer playing in the band.
The mysterious " IT " never appeared at those shows, alcohol and Tribal gatherings don't mix.
That's why Jerry said fuck it.
A TOUCH OF GRAY is saying how fucked things got.
That is if you can get by the, We Will Survive, pep talk.

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Poster: lobster12 Date: June 20, 2010 10:46:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

Thx august. I'm a big '91 guy but have skipped over this gig for some reason. I'll check out that Scarlet>fire you mentioned. if it's half as good as the Bonner Springs version it should be fun.

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Poster: agstwst33 Date: June 23, 2010 07:19:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

I simply was stating the fact tha GD histry had played such a nice rendiion of Scarlrt>Fire from the `91`s...thats all.But the version from 10/?/94 is w/o a doubt sweet...a must hear for latter year GD music....I hope you enjoy!

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Poster: bigwind Date: June 20, 2010 07:09:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

Man we went through all this once before!!!!!!!!!!!
With, A TOUCH OF GRAY, The Dead became mainstream.
Every Drunko Jock,and wanna be,started coming to the shows.
They gave two shits for the music, just wanted to fuck some Hippie chick, or start trouble in their alcoholic stupor. The audience vibe was no longer playing in the band.
The mysterious " IT " never appeared at those shows, alcohol and Tribal gatherings don't mix.
That's why Jerry said fuck it.
A TOUCH OF GRAY is saying how fucked things got.
That is if you can get by the, We Will Survive, pep talk.

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Poster: Jim F Date: June 21, 2010 02:14:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Today in GD History......

It is rather ironic, how the song that brought about mainstream success and perhaps a bit of a more "negative" atmosphere at the shows is defining exactly that same notion, perhaps predicting it.

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